Comments on: Stalking the why: selling visual analysis http://datadoodle.com/2009/10/21/stalking-the-why-selling-visual-analysis/ Where the humans meet analytics and related subjects Tue, 27 Jul 2010 15:33:31 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0 By: Blips – Explaining the Why, What, When, Where, How Questions « THE DATA rEVOLUTION http://datadoodle.com/2009/10/21/stalking-the-why-selling-visual-analysis/comment-page-1/#comment-703 Blips – Explaining the Why, What, When, Where, How Questions « THE DATA rEVOLUTION Tue, 03 Nov 2009 19:18:18 +0000 http://datadoodle.com/?p=1013#comment-703 [...] Ted Cuzzillo posted an article which outlined the struggle I’ve had coming up with a simple way to explain the [...] [...] Ted Cuzzillo posted an article which outlined the struggle I’ve had coming up with a simple way to explain the [...]

]]> By: Michael W Cristiani http://datadoodle.com/2009/10/21/stalking-the-why-selling-visual-analysis/comment-page-1/#comment-691 Michael W Cristiani Wed, 28 Oct 2009 22:15:55 +0000 http://datadoodle.com/?p=1013#comment-691 @Christine, What you said, all of it!! @Ted and @Dan Been socializing this gem. MANY BLESSINGS! Peace and All Good! Michael W Cristiani Market Intelligence Group, LLC @Christine,

What you said, all of it!!

@Ted and @Dan

Been socializing this gem.

MANY BLESSINGS!
Peace and All Good!
Michael W Cristiani
Market Intelligence Group, LLC

]]> By: Christine Muser http://datadoodle.com/2009/10/21/stalking-the-why-selling-visual-analysis/comment-page-1/#comment-688 Christine Muser Tue, 27 Oct 2009 20:31:58 +0000 http://datadoodle.com/?p=1013#comment-688 Ted: excellent discussion :) Just a thought to add to narbeh's comment about " ... needle in a haystack type paralysis." Visual analytics software like Tableau is just another tool. In the hands of an expert a chisel helps to create great sculptures, the rest of us just create big piles of dust. It takes experience, vision and an understanding of what really matters to figure out which blips are worth investigating. Before we chisel away at a blip, we need to ask ourselves whether knowing more about it will lead to meaningful change. Like a manager of mine said many years ago: what will we do differently as a result of knowing the answer? Therein lies the difficulty in demonstrating the value of visual analysis: many business users still won't want to spend time learning about data structures and what is under the hood. But for visually oriented folks like me it's a great way to figure out what business questions to ask. All the best, Christine. Ted:

excellent discussion :)

Just a thought to add to narbeh’s comment about ” … needle in a haystack type paralysis.”

Visual analytics software like Tableau is just another tool. In the hands of an expert a chisel helps to create great sculptures, the rest of us just create big piles of dust.

It takes experience, vision and an understanding of what really matters to figure out which blips are worth investigating. Before we chisel away at a blip, we need to ask ourselves whether knowing more about it will lead to meaningful change. Like a manager of mine said many years ago: what will we do differently as a result of knowing the answer?

Therein lies the difficulty in demonstrating the value of visual analysis: many business users still won’t want to spend time learning about data structures and what is under the hood. But for visually oriented folks like me it’s a great way to figure out what business questions to ask.

All the best,
Christine.

]]> By: narbeh http://datadoodle.com/2009/10/21/stalking-the-why-selling-visual-analysis/comment-page-1/#comment-687 narbeh Mon, 26 Oct 2009 06:40:39 +0000 http://datadoodle.com/?p=1013#comment-687 Hi Dan, Great topic of discussion. My Thoughts: Those that know what to look for can go about it with less pretty/functional tools (I use R) I fooled around with Tableau a while back (just the free trial) and must say I was in love with it. The only thing was, I could not crunch data with it, just visualize it. To me it seems strange to visualize it then move into another tool to test your hypothesis (stats perspective) The company I work for, I encouraged ppl to download the tool and also play/explore with it - which resulted in needle in a haystack type paralysis. Not that I represent a market or anything like that, but there are so many other ways to visually represent complex data (which are free and disclaimer: geared towards mungers) I have found the paid versions rather unnecessary :) cheers & an awesome Blog :) n Hi Dan,

Great topic of discussion.

My Thoughts:

Those that know what to look for can go about it with less pretty/functional tools (I use R)

I fooled around with Tableau a while back (just the free trial) and must say I was in love with it. The only thing was, I could not crunch data with it, just visualize it.

To me it seems strange to visualize it then move into another tool to test your hypothesis (stats perspective)

The company I work for, I encouraged ppl to download the tool and also play/explore with it – which resulted in needle in a haystack type paralysis.

Not that I represent a market or anything like that, but there are so many other ways to visually represent complex data (which are free and disclaimer: geared towards mungers) I have found the paid versions rather unnecessary :)

cheers & an
awesome Blog :)

n

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]]> By: Marcel Bosboom http://datadoodle.com/2009/10/21/stalking-the-why-selling-visual-analysis/comment-page-1/#comment-683 Marcel Bosboom Wed, 21 Oct 2009 20:55:53 +0000 http://datadoodle.com/?p=1013#comment-683 Ted, I worked with Dan in Europe and what I have learned is that Dan is also the guy that likes to start wildfires, because that is more fun than walking an already paved path. Being part of the evolutionary process of “BI on a Budget” is exhilarating to him. So I do not agree that the BI Industry has missed, they have always focused on the big companies in respect to reporting requirements. They just did what was asked of them and No More, they were asleep while a new market emerged. As the saying goes “Opportunity Doesn't Always Knock (Sometimes it Lurks) …. in the background” and again it is proven! Now you see that great tools are made available opening up the BI market to a new and large market, Dan saw this opportunity and acted on it. I hope many will also jump on this train.. Thanks for the article Ted, Kind regards from Europe. Ted,
I worked with Dan in Europe and what I have learned is that Dan is also the guy that likes to start wildfires, because that is more fun than walking an already paved path. Being part of the evolutionary process of “BI on a Budget” is exhilarating to him.
So I do not agree that the BI Industry has missed, they have always focused on the big companies in respect to reporting requirements. They just did what was asked of them and No More, they were asleep while a new market emerged. As the saying goes “Opportunity Doesn’t Always Knock (Sometimes it Lurks) …. in the background” and again it is proven!
Now you see that great tools are made available opening up the BI market to a new and large market, Dan saw this opportunity and acted on it. I hope many will also jump on this train..
Thanks for the article Ted,
Kind regards from Europe.

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